17/04/2023
THIS IS WHAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TRULY FEEL ABOUT DOCTORS AND NURSES PAY DISPUTE:
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Clarence J. Boddicker
6h
The worst part is that there are people out there who actually support these morons and think they deserve the 35% rise!!
Jane Carter
5h
J. Boddicker - polite suggestion, think about the reasons people might support it. Please be kind these people are in many cases working huge hours, remember we all clapped for them when it suited.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
4h
Jane Carter
Yes, there are also people working huge hours who are paid even less and work even harder but actually CANNOT strike. Have you ever thought about them? And for your information, thankfully, I didn't clap for these idiots.
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Jane Carter
4h
Clarence J. Boddicker
there are different professions who rightly are paid differently. there are many people including my husband who have worked very long hours (similar to this profession), so yes I have thought about them. My husband and I who have worked extremely hard all our lives value these people including the sheer amount of learning they undertake to ensure they can look after our medical needs.
Please reconsider the word you use to describe these people they might read your comment.
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Ian Price
4h
Jane Carter
I'm afraid some people resort to name calling when they run out of logical arguments.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
4h
Jane Carter
I'm hoping that they DO read my comments and all the others on here that don't support them and these strikes. Maybe then they will get an idea of what honest people actually think of them.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
4h
Ian Price
Oh, so please share with us your well thought out and intelligent insights into the matter, Ian. We can wait.
Ian Price
4h
Clarence J. Boddicker
Think you lost the argument when you started insulting people.
Jane Carter
3h
Clarence J. Boddicker
well darling a huge number of us honest people appreciate them - over and out, I have no time for people who have no consideration for the sheer amount of time and dedication the medical profession show YOU despite your stance and the rest of us.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
3h
Ian Price
The 'junior doctors' lost the argument when they made unrealistic, foolish and downright greedy demands. That's why they deserve to be insulted. And the longer they draw it out, the more insulted they will get by people.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
3h
Jane Carter
Well, thankfully people with your opinion are well in the minority, Jane. The longer this is drawn out, the less support they will get. Hopefully, they will end up having to go back to work with nothing.
Wizzy Donker
3h
Jane Carter
I didn't clap them once, do you clap every time you use your mobile phone for the harsh conditions the riggers work in on the masts and the deaths and injuries, well of course you do not, just one example and there are many, many others that die doing their job that you do not even know about but make your life work.
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Jane Carter
3h
Clarence J. Boddicker
I wasn't going to bother --- but just for you, if they end up without jobs who do you think will look after you when you need it?
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mat dillion
3h
treat yourself
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Clarence J. Boddicker
3h
Jane Carter
And if a close relative of yours dies because an operation they needed was postponed because of these strikes, would you still support them?
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Clarence J. Boddicker
3h
Jane Carter
Who said they'd be without jobs? If they don't get what they want, they will have to go back to work eventually. Just without their DEMANDED 35% pay rise.
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Jane Carter
3h
Clarence J. Boddicker
have you or your family including close friends been in the situation you describe? If yes I appreciate your stance.
Next question what about all the cancelled operations due to covid? Would you feel differently if these people didn't want a decent pay rise? What do you deem to be okay?
You and I are never going to agree, I support a decent pay rise for these professional people.
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Clarence J. Boddicker
3h
Jane Carter
But surely, people become doctors and nurses because they want to HELP people? They don't do it for the money. No-one ever forces them to choose a medical career. They should know what it entails, including the work and pay involved before they make the decision to choose that particular career. It's exactly the same with the teaching profession.
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Janet Young
5h
Anyone can see that 35% is 'a try on' and utterly unrealistic!
It's nothing more than a smoke screen to anarchy and an attempt to destroy government by the militant left!
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Jeremy Vernall
6h
Stupid people asking for unrealistic pay rise. Makes you wonder doesn't it
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Simon Hughes
6h
Take home pay of a junior doctor is £1874 a month for a flat month (36 hour week, x 4). Makes you laugh when the gold pension boomers complain when they had it so easy.
Wizzy Donker
3h
The basic silence by Labour tells you where all this is coming from apart from Rayner saying, Labour will give the unions what they want'. Well good luck to all of us.
Davy Smith
4h
They deserve to be paid fairly but 35% is just taking the proverbial
Jane Carter
4h
The figure mentioned in one year is unachievable, however a lower figure over multiple years isn't. How many people have been offered decent pay rises over multiple years with the overall rate given as the pay rise.
Do I think they should have 35% in one year? Of course not but they need to start somewhere, where is the consideration for all there huge work during covid?
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Jane Carter
5h
Mad as it might seem, if a rise was offered over say five years it could be deemed doable. Don't forget lots of companies give pay rises over a couple of years then hail the total value - just saying.
c v
6h
lot of those were still in school 15 years ago so how can they expect paying for that,idiots
lucy lu
3m
If you enter hospital via any means, the vast majority of Dr's you will encounter are what they call junior Dr's. That ranges from newly qualified Dr''s to senior registrars who may be running your local A and E or operating on your vital organs.
The Tories want you to believe these people are no more than noisy students. Ask questions and don't believe them when they try to misinform you.
Remember, they have ruined us for 13 years. They really do have to answer for that at the ballot box.
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peter H
2h
for so called clever people they joined the profession knowing this rate of pay and working conditions now they are complaining. Its like booking a beach holiday and complaining about the sand
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Queen B
6h
So why didn't the BMA fight for inflation-equaling pay rises over the last 15years? They obviously just accepted what was offered at the time. Should have stood up to the government before now
A new poll has found that readers believe that an above-inflation pay rise for junior doctors is unrealistic, despite the demand from their union.