06/06/2016
Muhammed Nubar Yahya Silmy, [06.06.16 22:35] Commented as
هذا الفتوى يخالف الحديث الصحيح الذي قال فيه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم "إذا سمع أحدكم النداء والإناء في يده فلا يضعه حتى يقضي حاجته منه" حديث صحيح أخرجه ابوداود، والحاكم، والبيهقي، وأحمد بطرق
وقت النداء وقت دخول الصبح، والنبي يرشد الى جواز الاكل والشرب حتي لو سمع النداء
والذي يستنبط من الآية خلاف قول النبي فليتق الله في فتواه
ولا تنشر مثل هذه الزللات من الفتاوي الذي يوجه الناس خلاف السنة
ويتق الله كل من يتعصب للمشايخ وينسي منزلة سنة النبي صلي الله عليه وسلم
Translated into English by Ibn Umar [06/06 8:24 am]: The ruling of the one that is being left behind eating *Sahuur* till the time for Subh enters being unaware of the time. Fatwa of Sheikh Muhsmmed bin Haadi
If you eat after the entrance of subh- being it supererogatory or compulsory - this does not count, this fast does not count, because Allaah سبحانه وتعالى has explained that where he says ابن عمر:
Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 187:
أُحِلَّ لَكُمْ لَيْلَةَ الصِّيَامِ الرَّفَثُ إِلَىٰ نِسَائِكُمْ هُنَّ لِبَاسٌ لَّكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لِبَاسٌ لَّهُنَّ عَلِمَ اللَّهُ أَنَّكُمْ كُنتُمْ تَخْتَانُونَ أَنفُسَكُمْ فَتَابَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَعَفَا عَنكُمْ فَالْآنَ بَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَابْتَغُوا مَا كَتَبَ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ وَكُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا حَتَّىٰ يَتَبَيَّنَ لَكُمُ الْخَيْطُ الْأَبْيَضُ مِنَ الْخَيْطِ الْأَسْوَدِ مِنَ الْفَجْرِ ثُمَّ أَتِمُّوا الصِّيَامَ إِلَى اللَّيْلِ وَلَا تُبَاشِرُوهُنَّ وَأَنتُمْ عَاكِفُونَ فِي الْمَسَاجِدِ تِلْكَ حُدُودُ اللَّهِ فَلَا تَقْرَبُوهَا كَذَٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ آيَاتِهِ لِلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَّقُونَ
It is made lawful for you to have sexual relations with your wives on the night of As-Saum (the fasts). They are Libas [i.e. body cover, or screen, or Sakan, (i.e. you enjoy the pleasure of living with her - as in Verse 7:189) Tafsir At-Tabari], for you and you are the same for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He turned to you (accepted your repentance) and forgave you. So now have sexual relations with them and seek that which Allah has ordained for you (offspring), and eat and drink until the white thread (light) of dawn appears to you distinct from the black thread (darkness of night), then complete your Saum (fast) till the nightfall. And do not have sexual relations with them (your wives) while you are in I'tikaf (i.e. confining oneself in a mosque for prayers and invocations leaving the worldly activities) in the mosques. These are the limits (set) by Allah, so approach them not. Thus does Allah make clear His Ayat (proofs, evidences, lessons, signs, revelations, verses, laws, legal and illegal things, Allah's set limits, orders, etc.) to mankind that they may become Al-Muttaqun (the pious - see V. 2:2). - (English - Mohsin Khan)
And that is it, but if he is not aware of the time, then no problem.
Which is wrong!
[06/06 8:27 am] Ibn Umar: Shaykh Yahya has responded to the Fatwaa saying...
هذا الفتوى يخالف الحديث الصحيح الذي قال فيه النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم "إذا سمع أحدكم النداء والإناء في يده فلا يضعه حتى يقضي حاجته منه" حديث صحيح أخرجه ابوداود، والحاكم، والبيهقي، وأحمد بطرق
This fatwaa has gone against an authentic hadeeth where the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم Said "if one of you hears the call to prayer and the plate (of food) is on his hand, he should not leave it until he satisfies his need from it"
An authentic hadeeth reported by Abu Dawuud, and Haakim, and Bayhaqiy, and Ahmad with many ways
وقت النداء وقت دخول الصبح، والنبي يرشد الى جواز الاكل والشرب حتي لو سمع النداء
The time of call to prayer is the time for entrance of subh, and the prophet guides to the lawfulness of eating and drinking even if he hears the call to prayer
والذي يستنبط من الآية خلاف قول النبي فليتق الله في فتواه
What we can bring out of the verse is quite different from what the prophet said. He should then fear Allaah in his fatwaa
ولا تنشر مثل هذه الزللات من الفتاوي الذي يوجه الناس خلاف السنة
And you should not spread this kind of misguidance among fatwaa which leads people to what is not inline with sunnah
ويتق الله كل من يتعصب للمشايخ وينسي منزلة سنة النبي صلي الله عليه وسلم
And all those that are having individual tribalism for scholars and forgets the position of the sunnah of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم.
And all those that are having individual tribalism for scholars and forgets the position of the sunnah of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم *Should fear Allaah*