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09/10/2024

WHAT DOES ABEL DAMINA, ON ONE SIDE, AND ENOCH ADEBOYE, W.F. Kumuyi and their sons on their other side, ridicule as "Once saved, always saved?"

"12 When your days are fulfilled and you lie down with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring after you, who shall come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He shall build a house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son. When he commits iniquity, I will discipline him with the rod of men, with the stripes of the sons of men, 15 but my steadfast love will not depart from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away from before you. 16 And your house and your kingdom shall be made sure forever before me. Your throne shall be established forever.'" (2 Samuel 7:12-16, ESV)

WHAT THEY BOTH RIDICULE IS THE TRUTH that in Jesus, and because of the sacrifice of Jesus, God eternally secured for himself "children" whom he treats better than any man has ever treated his children: In Christ Jesus, God raises children who He then disciplines and matures successfully unto the full measure of the stature he has set out for them so that He may receive ALL the glory. As the new testament Scripture says, "behold what manner of love the Father has given unto us that we shall be called the sons of God".

That truth is found throughout Scripture, old and new testament. Everywhere. If you read the Bible, properly, starting from Chapter 1 of each book, and reading verse to verse. God's promise of eternal life means just that: eternal life. It is not start-stop-start-stop-start-stop life, depending on how good you are at any point in time.

That purely biblical doctrine of salvation in Jesus was recovered by the Protestant Reformation (under Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Knox, etc) after it was universally ridiculed and stolen away from mainstream Christianity by Satan using Roman Catholicism until one of their monks, Martin Luther, who was thoroughly exhausted unto death by the Roman Catholic false depiction of salvation opened his Bible and actually read it. And was blessed by God with sight to actually understand what it said literally. That "salvation is of the Lord". That "salvation is not by works of human righteousness".

When Martin Luther tried to share that awesomely liberating truth with his Roman Catholic 'brethren', he found death and destruction chasing him. From the Pope to the smallest cathecist. For, to teach that salvation was by grace alone, by faith alone, in Christ alone, to the glory of God as the Merciful One alone was declared anathema by the Roman Catholic Church. And anyone who believed and preaches that was to be killed by excruciating means: including being burned at the stake.

Martin Luther was asked to recant and fall back in line into his miserable life. He refused declaring that famous quote:

"“My conscience is captive to the Word of God. Thus I cannot and will not recant, because acting against one's conscience is neither safe nor sound. Here I stand; I can do no other. God help me.”

His courage in the defence of God-ordained truth sparked a flame in the public square that gave the heretical Roman Catholic system a good beat-back. People began to seek to return to God again as their Father and Saviour: not as something out there, great, terrible and miraculous (for the right price) but manageable behind the shroud and hands and mouths of human priests through the vicarage of the Pope. Light began to shine again in the public square of humanity forcing back the monopoly of darkness enforced through Roman Catholicism.

One of the main result of that Protestant Reformation was the return of the Bible into the hands of real people through translations in real languages of real people - something then banned under the penalty of death by the Roman Catholic Church. To read that Bible, literacy of the common populace became a thing and the seeds that led to modern educational system for all and sundry was laid. Schools. Media and publications. Inalienable rights that cannot be taken away by even human sovereigns and governments. Those were the fruit of a return to the knowledge that God has chosen to make sons out of mere mortals and that He will not share His glory in that "Fatherhood" with anyone: human or angel.

Of course Satan was unhappy with that. Losing some of his slaves, even if he still had a lot remaining in his captivity wasn't enough for him. He had to device a way to undermine the Protestant Reformation so that he can have it all: he can bring back every under his hell-bound chains.

The result? Pentecostalism. In its various waves. Pentecostalism exist to subvert again the love-monopoly of God as the Father over His household. Just like Catholics called and continue to call their leaders "Fathers", it is why Pentecostalism thrives wherever there is a powerful "Father-in-the-Lord" who cannot be 'touched". A person who is treated as a god. A person who presumptuously promises powers and outcomes that rightfully belong to God alone.

And just like Martin Luther's time, today's Pentecostalism insist that no one really is a son of God - for real. You are only kind of, sort of, a child of God when you are good. And perfect. Jesus' work on the Cross is only a matriculation. They, the leaders of Pentecostalism are the lecturers with powers to determine whether you graduate or not, and that is, if you keep buying their lecture notes, keep paying the mandatory fees and keep passing their metered examinations from a good distance.

Salvation, thereunder, becomes a never ending but fickle transaction. Under that system, Jesus is a liar. "It is finished", Jesus lied. "It is fee-furnished", cries the Pentecostals in correction. And the more you pay, the more you get. If you used to do 10%, try getting 90%. And do not worry, for according to Enoch Adeboye, they have the power to make right to be wrong for you and vice versa.

And so like Catholicism, ancient and modern, under Pentecostalism, everyone gets to earn their ultimate "entry into heaven" - aka, becoming a child of God - for keeps.

That's what at stake when you hear your pastors say it is heresy to say, "once saved, always saved". They mean, 'you are the one to save yourself'. Jesus only gave you a demonstration as to how to get that process started. And until you win your way over sin, aided somehow by Jesus and the Holy Ghost, and the payment of various indulgences (tithes, offerings, being a 'worker', etc), you shall not be with Jesus, in Paradise. Your deal, is guaranteed, worse than that of the thief on Calvary who died with Christ.

To make you accept that unbiblical version of salvation peddled for gain by Pentecostalism, Satan nicely raises men like Abel Damina to pretend to be the voice of true salvation so that through his pompous mischaracterisation of salvation by grace alone, through faith in Christ alone to the glory of God alone, enough people would be convinced to accept salvations by human merit as all that God has to offer.

Don't do that. It is a historical scam. A deadly scam. For whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. Salvation is of the Lord. It is not by works of righteousness but by His grace alone. It is God who wills in you "both to will and to do according to His good pleasure". Our righteousness, whatever it is worth, on this side of eternity, is only possible, and worth a reward, when we realise the guarantee of the seal of the "Child of God".

Nobody is going to Heaven because of their right doing. No, not one. Jesus is the Way, the Truth, the Life.

How protestants became (through pentecostalism) poorer cousins of pseudo Roman-Catholics with: 1. their own veneration o...
25/09/2024

How protestants became (through pentecostalism) poorer cousins of pseudo Roman-Catholics with:

1. their own veneration of Mary/saints/pope (a.k.a. Fathers-in-the-Lord, Generals, GOs, etc in pentecostalism);

2. selling and practices of indulgences (a.k.a. Adeboye Combs, Oyedepo olive oil, Prophet Jero pure water, Suleman magic money, Oyakhilome "partnerships" payments, etc in pentecostalism),

3. exorcism (deliverance in pentecostalism);

4. speaking of mysterious worship languages like Latin (Kabashing in pentecostalism), etc.

5. Purgatory (through multiple pentecostal doctrines that make their members' works of righteousness the basis of "making heaven".


for Protestant Reformation and finding Catholicised Pentecostalism

The Second Vatican Council (1962–65), 21st ecumenical council of the Roman Catholic Church, was announced by Pope John XXIII in 1959 as a means of spiritual renewal for the church and as an occasion for Christians separated from Rome to join in a search for Christian unity. It enacted many moderni...

25/09/2024

PART 1 - WHY WE LIE SO MUCH DURING TESTIMONY TIME

The idea of testimony in a Christian Church ought to be, primarily, about boasting in three "s" things. Suffering. Simplicity. Sincerity. That boasting must have a godly “s” purpose: “SOLDIERING” for the cause and glory of Christ. That boasting ought to be possible only when there is a foundation of two “s” things: initial “Salvation” and ongoing “sanctification”.

What is today called “ Testimony Time” in the Lord's Chosen, Deeper Life, Christ Embassy, RCCG, Anglican Church, Presbyterian Church, Methodist Church, Baptist Churches, Assemblies of God, and all their mushroom offshoots — ancient and modern — ought to be about those six “s”s.

Why have they become the opposite of that? This is how the book of 2nd Corinthians pointedly begins its very first chapter, specifically verses 1- 14:

"1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God that is at Corinth, with all the saints who are in the whole of Achaia: 2 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of MERCIES and God of all COMFORT, 4 who COMFORTS us in all our AFFLICTION, so that we may be able to COMFORT those who are in any AFFLICTION, with the COMFORT with which we ourselves are COMFORTED by God. 5 For as we share abundantly in Christ's SUFFERINGs, so through Christ we share abundantly in COMFORT too. 6 If we are AFFLICTED, it is for your COMFORT and SALVATION; and if we are COMFORTED, it is for your COMFORT, which you experience when you PATIENTLY ENDURE the same SUFFERINGs that we SUFFER. 7 Our HOPE for you is UNSHAKEN, for we know that as you SHARE in our SUFFERINGs, you will also SHARE in our COMFORT. 8 For we do not want you to be UNAWARE, brothers, of the AFFLICTIONs we experienced in Asia. For we were so UTTERLY BURDENED BEYOND OUR STRENGTH that we DESPAIRED OF LIFE itself. 9 Indeed, we FELT that we had RECEIVED THE SENTENCE OF DEATH. But that was to MAKE US RELY NOT ON OURSELVES but on God who raises the DEAD. 10 He delivered us from such a DEADLY PERIL, and he will deliver us. On him we have SET OUR HOPE that HE WILL DELIVER US AGAIN. 11 You also must help us by prayer, so that many will give thanks on our behalf FOR THE BLESSINGS GRANTED us through the prayers of many. 12 For our boast is this, the testimony of our conscience, that we behaved in the world with “SIMPLICITY” and godly “SINCERITY”, not by earthly wisdom but by the grace of God, and supremely so toward you. 13 For we are not writing to you anything other than what you read and understand and I hope you will fully understand — 14 just as you did partially understand us — that on the day of our Lord Jesus you will boast of us as we will boast of you." (2 Corinthians 1:1-14, ESV)

Let’s start with the first three “s”s. One, "sufferingS" (PLURAL) of the Christian for the cause of Christ. Two, "simplicity" of the Christian towards the world and towards one another in the riches of Christ. And, three, godly "sincerity" of the Christian in the face of suffering as well as blessedness. All three, in no particular order.

Each time any person is platformed for "testimony time" in a supposed Christian congregation, those three ought to be on display: suffering; simplicity; sincerity. For you can't have one without the other.

Suffering. Godly Suffering inheres within its reality-frame simplicity and sincerity. No one suffers really if it is just in a performative or melodramatic sense. Suffering is no show: it has to be true and real down to its details. Real suffering beats down the standing one; it strips naked the clothed one; it afflicts the healthy one to the point of being deceased; it puts out to the street the well accommodated one; it distresses the once secure person; and it depresses the once bubbling spirit.

In suffering the ostentatious load of certainty and self-confidence as to the future is stripped bare and the sufferer is released lightweight to complete reliance on "providence" for survival from the frothing waves of perilous happenstances tossing him/her to and fro.

A supposed Christian who doesn't know true suffering for the cause of Christ is one who will be ashamed of the Cross and the Christ that died on it. Because s/he will not know the power of the Cross and the One who passed through it unto resurrection — Jesus Christ the Righteous — which shields ably against the stormy terrors of suffering, perils and affliction. That person has nothing to true to testify about for the edification of the saints of Christ. For that same reason, a true Christian that has to any measure, known true suffering has no need to embellish or lie or exaggerate to make their testimony interesting. For, true suffering is riveting in its simple and sincere re-telling.

Sincerity. Sincerity isn't an art enslaved to the imagination and denouement (an impactful ending deserving of the standing ovation of removed spectators). Sincerity isn’t science requiring mental drunkenness on logics and rhetoric. Sincerity is like the economic labour of Eden — sweaty laboring on the farm for harvest of that which is not w**d. Sincerity is like warfare: it stays alive by killing that which will happily kill it if sincerity does not kill it first: lies. Sincerity is the laborious wrestling with the human will to resist the buxomly temptress of our imaginations so that the human will can rouse the discipline to put a gun to the head of the mind so that the mind can stay true to the covenant wife of its youth: the human memory. For, there is no testimony — a true recall and re-tell — where imagination is actively in play. For during testimonies, imagination, the beautiful w***e, is forever pregnant with bastard lies which it can’t wait to birth for the surname and nurturing of the mind at the expense of its true spouse, the memory and its children: truth.

A Christian who isn't a slave of sincerity can’t be a slave of Christ: the Truth. That Christian will not study to know eternal life: the One true God and Jesus Christ the Righteous who the true God has sent. That so-called Christian will be unwise and lacking in discernment and so can’t see his or her way around the joyful conundrum of being at the same time a child of God and a slave of Christ, his or her co-heir. That Christian will be susceptible to lies and deceptions from third party and self. Therefore, that person cannot but lie and make up fables as 'testimony' in a vain effort to assert the “brand” or “profile” that they covertly covet. That supposed Christianity who does not relish the privilege of being an adopted son and a wilful slave of the Eternal God cannot reconcile the prospect of temporal suffering co-existing with blessedness in the life of a Christian. The result is that they would be predisposed, in their public testimonies to cheat, lie, exaggerate, conflate and make up things so as to give prominence to puffed up blessedness which they believe affirm their legitimation as sons while hiding from true afflictions that they have known because of their belief that suffering points to bastardy in their relationship with God: the most pernicious lie of Pentecostalism and its “prosperity” non-gospel..

Simplicity. Godly simplicity is eternally at war with cosmetics, make-overs, lies, pretence, ostentatiousness, boasting, misrepresentation and exaggeration. That perennial state of warfaring makes Suffering Simplicity's closest friend/ally while at the same time rendering Sincerity Simplicity's armour bearer.

Because of Sincerity, Simplicity is unfazed by the threat or prospect or imminence or actual presence of suffering. Wisdom is a great defence against the fear of the unknown. Knowledge of the after-life is a great defence against the terror of death and all the shades of suffering that its pathway promises. Sincerity propels a person to acknowledge ignorance of what truly matters and then to embrace simplicity so as to cast off the pursuit of vain things in order to really know that matters. It makes humility precious and pride an enemy. True pursuit of knowledge brings close familiarity with the truth of Suffering, not as a bottomless pit of terror but as a platform to become acquainted with the comfort of God: to know the Holy Spirit, the Comforter which teaches with Simplicity, how to look forward to and welcome ordained Suffering with Sincerity.

Thus, for the Christian, Sincerity fortifies Simplicity to know the fellowship of Suffering in Christ. For truth - Sincerity - is the full armour of God which embraced in joy can secure both survival and thriving in the face of ordained suffering.

Simplicity is in that sense, meekness: it announces strength and capacity under mature control. Sincerity is in that sense maturation: it connotes the capacity not to flinch when exposed to the truth and nothing but the truth. And, suffering is in that sense soldiering: a quest for victory and glory, in this sense, the eternal glory of God.

That's what pentecostal preachers deny their followers: meekness, maturation and the capacity to be soldier. With the infantilizing promises of earthly prosperity/goodies bereft of ordained suffering, they raise up army rarely incapable of sincerity: of chasing, facing up to and detailing the truth without flinching. That's why their testimony time is lie lie time.

How do the other "s"s - Soldiering; Salvation; Sanctification - tie into the epidemic of lies on pentecostal pulpits in the name of testimony time? Coming soon.

09/09/2024

ONCE SAVED, ALWAYS SAVED: BETWEEN DAMINA AND ADEBOYE (ETC) - PART 1

"We believe in resurrection" say the Pharisees.

"Explain it", say the Sadducees.

"Well, we would need to actually go read, understand and abide by just what Scripture reveals because we know it is there", say the Pharisees.

"Well, go do it then", say the Sadducees.

"No, we won't if you won't join us! How unfair is it that we would always be doing all that hard work while you sit here and be eating alone?", say the Pharisees.

"Hear! hear!," the Sadducees would then bellow out with a contented laughter, while picking their teeth and belching from their latest feast. "These lazy Pharisees want us to teach what they can't explain because they won’t go learn it. We won't teach it until they learn it. Until they learn it, we would simply tell the people that there is no resurrection. And make the Pharisees who keep on teaching it look really bad since they frankly teach it really bad."

So, both went to town and played out that farce with seriousness. The Sadducees preached, with a serious face, that there was no resurrection. And the Pharisees cried, with serious consternation, that there was resurrection, but everyone needed to believe it by "faith" without asking any question concerning troubling details. The troubled people asked questions all the same, which as expected, the Pharisees answered with non-answers. And seeing that, the Sadducees would laugh even harder while rubbing their fat bellies, only to then quip:

"Well, well, how great is that. No questions! But certainly, if we can’t ask a question, that's not to say we can't tell a story."

And right on cue, they would launch into the telling of what overtime became the great story for all ages: the story that won ultimately the debate: not by explaining the problem but by ridiculing a ridiculous attempt to solve the problem of "resurrection" by sidestepping the abiding solution staring everyone in the face: the diligent and systematic study of Scripture with a godly spirit.

In telling that great story, the Sadducees would routinely adopt a mock obsequious attitude towards the Pharisees saying:

"Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies having no children, his brother must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother.' Now there were seven brothers among us."

Here they would pause for effect, looking for how to creatively infuse new details to make the old tale tantalising to the latest audience.

"The first son was 24 years when he married his sweetheart who was 16 years old. She had the striking and unfading beauty of mother Sarah as well as the loyalty of Ruth. The marriage was bliss but lasted for less than six months when the husband suddenly died, killed by an accidental discharge of arrows by Roman soldiers, who were effecting a “dead or alive” arrest warrant on Barrabas the robber.

“And having no offspring, this young, pretty and virtuous wife was happily inherited by the immediate younger brother of the deceased so as to raise an offspring to keep the deceased brother's name going. They were married for 6 years when suddenly this other brother slumped and died to the great sorrow of this woman again. Yet, everyone knew she was a good wife and was even more, the prettiest woman in town: a treasure to this family who were not prepared to let her go or consider her a witch for the ill-fortune to their two brothers.

So, number three son stepped in and married her again. Ten years down the line, he was dead. But without an issue. Everyone knew it was his fault. He had been married before and his wife had left him and married another man for whom she had raised five children since.

Brother Number four undeterred jumped right in. He had heard of his brother's death while sojourning in Rome. He immediately set forth to do the needful. He came, married her and consumated the marriage. A few days after, he set out to tidy up his affairs in the town where he once sojourned so as to come back and reside permanently with her. He never made it back as he died on the way from high fever.

Undeterred the fifth stepped in after burying his brother. Brother number 5 had just, at that moment, lost his own not so great wife to death, and so had moved in conveniently into the marital comfort of this veteran wife. Five years on, he was dead.

Brother number 6, was somewhat sickly and had up till then been unable to find a wife ever to marry him. Here was his chance. And she, even knowing she had the right to say no, said yes. Ten years of martial bliss followed as she tended this man into the most respected man in all of the town and beyond. But then, he too died, with his heads on her laps. He was remembered for dying with a smile on his face, fully content and grateful to God to have known life with such a woman.

The seventh son was all that was left. He had thus far spent most of his life as a monk content that his six other brothers would raise enough sons to continue the legacy of their ancestors. But the monastery leaders were forced to literally throw him out having heard of what had befallen his six brothers. He needed to go raise children for his father's line, they said."

Here the story-teller Sadducee would pause for effect. He knows the crowd is bristling. He knows they know where the story is going. How it would end. He knows they do not like it. Nobody really likes a proper horror show. He knows that just like naive commoners, ever ready to be exploited by the same scheme while hoping for a different outcome, that they would sit in their torture and hear him out with genuine apprehension, instead of simply getting up to leave. It never grows old, he knows, this desire of the poor multitudes for a stale but fascinating story to be reframed just to satisfy their poor sense of impoverished justice. He knows they are willing him to, just this once, to change the well-known conclusion of the story.

"By this time, the lady was still less than fifty years. If any thing, close acquaintance with sorrow and six different men had made her, acquire a solemnity that strikingly accentuated her beauty even more while making her extremely wise and resourceful. Like the woman of Solomon's dream in Proverbs 31, she was rich — in form, in wit and in wealth — commanding goods and attention from far and near. Kings literally waited for her release to try and woo her to be their queen.

Thereupon arrived this monk brother. And one look at her, he saw what his brothers saw and his good heart went out to her. He immediately vowed to love her like he has never loved anything in his life. He even somehow knew it was possible. For her to still raise a heir for the whole family. After all, Sarah birthed Isaac at a much more advanced age. This woman would get her chance from him, who from living among the monks was as virile as a stud, he swore quietly. So, he married her the next day. And, then died the next day from the great joy he had spending the night with her, during which night she conceived and nine months later gave birth to a son. She would live out her life playing the matriarch to that family faithfully raising that son to be a well-regarded man until she died at the ripe age of 120 years".

Bittersweet, the story seems to end this time around. Even if the bitterness was still the stronger element.

Yet, it was not really the end, as the Sadducee knows, for he has to put the question that the Pharisees dread to answer but which the People needs to be answered clearly if they are not to follow the Sadducees. And since the Sadducee lives for that moment of putting the question so as to ridicule their Pharisees kith and by so doing enhance their own stature by reducing the authority of Scriptures to nothing more than whatever the Sadducees say it says, it was important that the question be put.

"In the resurrection, therefore, of the seven, whose wife will the great woman be? For they all had her. Will the resurrected 120 year old woman be the wife of the first who died young, or the 2nd, or the 3rd, or the 4th or the 5th or the 6th or even the 7th, remembering they all died before they were 50 years?"

It was a question that ended all arguments from the Pharisees. A question which caused the people to turn their gaze away from the Pharisees, to focus on their stirred uncomfortable distaste at the prospect of the after life through resurrection.

"How can a a 50 years old man marry a 120 years old—not to say a twenty something year old one as their lot in the after life? Why God do that bizarre thing as a reward? Why afflict any man under 50 years with a 120 year old woman? How is that a Paradise to look forward to? How could the resurrection not be a bad idea if God is as good and wise as all claim He is?

Those conclusions framed as questions were what the Sadducees wanted and that's the conclusion they always got.

That was, until one carpenter from Nazareth, Jesus who was also acclaimed as the Christ, seized the attention of the public square. When the Sadducees, supposing him to be another Pharisee wannabe put that fangled tale and final question to him, he did something that no one had ever done. He had an actual answer:

"29 But Jesus answered them, "You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 31 And as for the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you by God: 32 'I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not God of the dead, but of the living." 33 And when the crowd heard it, they were astonished at his teaching. (Matthew 22:24-33, ESV)

And to make matters worse, for the Sadducees, one Paul of Tarsus, a former Pharisee, became a disciple of that same Jesus. And he had even more to say to say on the subject of resurrection to end all the arguments, with some choice rebuke for the Sadducees too:

"35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."

You do not answer the question of "once saved, always saved" by listening to either Abel Damina (who doesn't believe in Heaven or Hell and doesn't understand what he is talking about, half of the time except when he is exposing the well-known corruption of his religious opponents). You do not do that also by kowtowing to his pentecostal opponents who want to replace Jesus Christ as the "anointed ones" and the Way into Heaven so that they can re-enact Purgatory (by other labels) for you as conditions for becoming and staying a Christian and for going to Heaven.

No, You go to Jesus Christ as revealed in the Bible and find out what He actually said about the question. Don't let anyone receive you. Christianity isn't a coin of opinions from greedy religious leaders fighting over followers.

What did Jesus say "about once saved, always saved" if any? Part 2 coming soon.

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