Kevin Wernli Physio

Kevin Wernli Physio I'm a Physiotherapist in Perth with a PhD in low back pain. This page shares my (& others) research.

“Thank you for what you do for those wonderful children… you’ve made my day”Congratulations to all our Prize Winners for...
04/14/2025

“Thank you for what you do for those wonderful children… you’ve made my day”

Congratulations to all our Prize Winners for those who donated over $30 to our 24 Hour Swim for to keep bring free surf experiences to kids with autism around Australia! 🏄‍♂️🏄‍♀️🌏🦘🐨

We raised over $200k and swam 1,716kms, with your Golden fins clocking up 87.7km and raising just shy of 8k!!

Thanks to the legends at the below businesses for supporting us!!









🔁 As back pain becomes chronic, what matters most changes.🔹 In the early (acute) stage, spinal and nervous system change...
04/04/2025

🔁 As back pain becomes chronic, what matters most changes.

🔹 In the early (acute) stage, spinal and nervous system changes appear to be more relevant.
🧠 But as pain persists beyond 12 weeks, the data tells us that psychosocial factors like mood, fear, and stress take the lead.

✨ Understanding this shift helps us move beyond the biology/scans — and toward whole-person care.

⚠️ Caution: These findings are based on cross-sectional data — they show associations, not cause and effect. More research is needed to understand how these factors interact over time, but there is existing literature that shows a bidirectional relationship (Gerrits et al. 2015, Picavet et al. 2002, Edward’s er al. 2016, Dubois et al. 2016)

📚 Citation: Tagliaferri SD, et al. Relative contributions of the nervous system, spinal tissue, and psychosocial factors to chronic low back pain. Eur J Pain. 2021;25(3):556–570. doi:10.1002/ejp.1706

Calling all in Alice Springs! Looking forward to this one at the red centre auditorium at Alice spring’s hospital! Link ...
02/21/2025

Calling all in Alice Springs! Looking forward to this one at the red centre auditorium at Alice spring’s hospital!

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So lovely to receive this type of feedback for the practicals course I did for  🙏🏼  Grateful for all the mentors, patien...
12/17/2024

So lovely to receive this type of feedback for the practicals course I did for 🙏🏼 Grateful for all the mentors, patients, and supporters along the way!

Wishing you all a fun and safe festive season 🥳

Looking forward to sharing the latest about   and   up in  this Friday! Link in bioEvent descriptionFree Community Event...
10/01/2024

Looking forward to sharing the latest about and up in this Friday!

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Event description

Free Community Event: Uncover the Myths and Facts about Low Back Pain and Endometriosis

Join physiotherapist, researcher, and lecturer Dr. Kevin Wernli, PhD (low back pain) for an engaging and educational seminar on low back pain and endometriosis.

Kevin, co-founder of Matilda Health and former co-host/producer of the Empowered Beyond Pain podcast, will debunk common myths and share scientific facts that can help you, your loved ones, or your patients live better with these conditions.

Event Highlights:

Informal and interactive educational session
Learn
Why posture isn’t as important as we used to think for back pain
Whether imaging findings like disc bulges or protrusions are irrelevant
How pain is actually produced in the body
Why endometriosis pain is not just ‘normal period pain’ (if there is such a thing)
and more!
Complimentary refreshments and snacks kindly provided by Central West Health and Rehabilitation

Who is this event for?

Whilst the event is targeted for people experiencing these conditions and their loved ones, the presentation will be full of contemporary science and new research (presented in a digestible way) and is therefore suitable for clinicians, too.
Details:

Location: WA Centre for Rural Health, 167 Fitzgerald St, Geraldton WA
Date: Friday 4th of October, 2024
Time: 5:00pm - 6:30pm (complimentary light refreshments)
Don’t miss this opportunity to gain valuable insights, improve your understanding of persistent pain conditions, and connect with the local community afterwards.
Walk-ins are welcome, subject to venue capacity.

Event kindly supported by:


(Geraldton)


(Charity taking kids with Autism Surfing)
(Perth)

Small steps compound
07/10/2024

Small steps compound

Landmark study about low back pain treatment just released, congrats to all authors - GAME CHANGING! Link in bio
05/03/2023

Landmark study about low back pain treatment just released, congrats to all authors - GAME CHANGING!

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I jumped on  again this morning with .mitsopoulos to talk about some of the common misconceptions about Osteoarthritis a...
04/17/2023

I jumped on again this morning with .mitsopoulos to talk about some of the common misconceptions about Osteoarthritis and Back Pain. These are the things that can trio people up and keep them from getting back to living… what Di you think, any that I missed?

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01/25/2023

Just published in “The Spine Journal” 🔥

Can we predict resorption of lumbar disc herniations in symptomatic patients? 🤔

👉 Lumbar disc herniation (LDH), is a common cause of LBP, commonly manifesting as pain with or with-out radiation to the leg, paresthesia, sensory deficits, muscle weakness, and other neurologic signs [https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMcp1512658, https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMcp1512658, https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1533-2500.2010.00370.x]

👉 Herniation occurs when the intervertebral disc protrudes, extrudes, or is sequestrated from its usual anatomic position and compresses a nearby nerve root [https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMcp1512658]. In the majority of cases, LDHs are caused by patient-specific factors, such as age-related disc degeneration, genetic predisposition, bio-mechanical factors, sedentary lifestyle, and trauma [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12178-017-9441-4, https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev.bioeng.4.092101.122107, https://www.cmaj.ca/content/188/4/284].

👉 Nonoperative management is initially recommended in the majority of cases, leading to significant improvement in symptoms within 3 to 6 months from initial herniation [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1533-2500.2010.00370.x, https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/204281, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15834338/, https://journals.lww.com/spinejournal/Abstract/1990/07000/The_Natural_History_of_Lumbar_Intervertebral_Disc.13.aspx].

👉 Conservative management relies on the body’s natural ability to spontaneously “resorb” the herniated disc fragment as part of a phenomenon of “self-healing”. Although the exact mechanism of action is under debate, a recent meta-analysis noted that spontaneous resorption after an LDH occurs in 67% of cases within 1 year [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28072796/] and up to 96% in disc sequestration [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25009200/].

🤷‍♂️ But at the moment we don´t know exactly the predictive factors of resorption. To answer this question, Hornung et al.[ https://www.thespinejournalonline.com/article/S1529-9430(22)00959-7/fulltext] followed 93 patients with symptomatic disc herniation up to 1 year after in a prospective study.

📊 Baseline assessment of patient demographics (eg, smoking status, height, weight, etc.), herniation characteristics (eg, the initial level of herniation, the direction of herniation, prevalence of multiple herniations, etc.) and MRI phenotypes (eg, Modic changes, end plate abnormalities, disc degeneration, vertebral body dimensions, etc.) were collected for further analysis. Lumbar MRIs were performed approximately every 3 months for 1 year from time of enrollment to assess disc integrity.

📊 All patients (93/93; 100%) experienced resorption within 1 year. 23 patients exhibited complete resorption < 3 months after initial evaluation and were classified to the “early resorption group”, whereas the others patients were categorized to the late resorption groups.

⛔ All patients were treated with gabapentin, acupuncture, and education on avoidance of inflammatory-modulating medications. This regimen was developed based on the idea that inflammation and neovascularization are integral to disc resorption, and this response may be altered by NSAIDs or corticosteroids as they have the potential to limit our bodies’ naturally selected mechanisms for resorbing herniated discs [https://www.thespinejournalonline.com/article/S1529-9430(22)00959-7/fulltext , https://arthritis-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13075-018-1743-4].

💡 3 baseline factors (s. figure) predicted an early resorption after LDH (precision (0.75), specificity (0.92), sensitivity (0.67)):
1. greater L4 posterior vertebral height,
2. greater sacral slope (SS), and
3. greater herniated volume

While the reason behind a faster resorption with a greater posterior vertebral height are unclear, the authors speculate, that a greater SS (greater than 35˚) could lead to lower strain on the disc and biomechanical stress, potentially influence the likelihood of early resorption. [https://josr-online.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13018-018-0838-6]

💡 Moreover, the advantage of greater initial herniation size maybe a product of differential access to nutrients and hydration to facilitate resorption, as larger herniations may pe*****te the annulus fibrosus and the posterior longitudinal ligament and become exposed to epidural vascular supply, whereas smaller herniations remain dependent on the adjacent end plate and its relatively lower capacity for metabolic transport [https://journals.lww.com/spinejournal/Abstract/2006/05150/Determinants_of_Spontaneous_Resorption_of.12.aspx, https://journals.lww.com/spinejournal/Abstract/2021/04010/Association_Between_Vertebral_Dimensions_and.3.aspx].

According to the authors, this hypothesis is particularly interesting in the context of this study, as restricting anti-inflammatory medications to permits natural inflammation may have enabled greater neovascularization [https://arthritis-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13075-018-1743-4, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1878875011004992?via%3Dihub] and contributed to accelerated resorption of larger herniations.

📣 In any case, we should pass on a great message to patients: A larger disc herniation seems to favour early complete resorption.

And one more important side note to this study: There were no differences in onset of symptoms, cessation of radicular symptoms, or VAS scores at follow-up between the early and late resorption group! So resorption does not equal symptom reduction.

I had the pleasure of joining Nadia Mitsopoulos in the  studio again this this week. 🔗 Link in BioWe had a wide-ranging ...
12/01/2022

I had the pleasure of joining Nadia Mitsopoulos in the studio again this this week. 🔗 Link in Bio

We had a wide-ranging chat talking and

Not necessarily an easy environment but practice makes progress and Nadia is such a great host!

Honoured to take out the WA Australian Physiotherapy Association emerging researcher award on Friday night. Thanks to al...
11/06/2022

Honoured to take out the WA Australian Physiotherapy Association emerging researcher award on Friday night.

Thanks to all the amazing people I get to work with and learn from!

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I’m a physiotherapist based in Perth, Western Australia. Currently completing my PhD at Curtin University supervised by Professors Peter Kent, Peter O’Sullivan, Anne Smith and Dr Amity Campbell. Passionate about helping people and translating evidence based knowledge into the real world. All views are my own. Twitter: @KWernliPhysio