22/03/2025
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Astounding!
Girl shares nightmares about her brothers and sisters - frozen embryos.
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IVF (in vitro fertilization) children have a unique journey in this world as they enter life.
As researchers in pre and perinatal psychology, we have learned that our life does not begin after birth, as the cultural myth has led us to believe. In our books, Cosmic Cradle, Spiritual Dimensions of Life before Birth (2013) and Babies Are Cosmic, Signs of Their Secret Intelligence (2019), we have interviewed children and adults who spontaneously recall at a very deep level of consciousness their primal journey, the way they entered this world. Our research reveals that these people describe: a spiritual existence before conception, a remembrance of the act of conception, or when they came into their body, a conscious and sentient experience throughout womb life and birth, and some even remember past lives.
In the unique case of IVF children, some recall the early stages of their journey involving IVF procedures such as the collection of eggs & s***m; conception; and the reductions of siblings.
To illustrate, here we share prebirth memories surfacing in the dreams of a young IVF girl, Carolyn (pseudonym) involving a relationship to her frozen siblings. The source of this story is the clinical practice of Karlton Terry (KT), an American pre and perinatal workshop leader. For the last 35 years, he has taught 400+ workshops/trainings in the US, Mexico, Western and Eastern Europe, and the UK. KT mentors birth practitioners in understanding how trauma in early life can affect the future psyche and trains them in the art of healing babies from pre and perinatal implicit memories.
Before we share the details of Carolyn’s case, it is important to explain what challenges KT observed in IVF babies and children, including Carolyn and her twin brother.
In general, KT noticed that all IVF babies have a particular kind of disconnection from their bodies, a disharmony within "themselves" and their bodies. They have a hard time "finding" their bodies. An airiness, or thinness seems to exist in the connection between the physical system and the person inside. The IVF children, to him, have a tentative relationship to form, including the very structure of their own bodies.
KT observed that how this manifests is that IVF babies and children have difficulty being grounded, organized, and relaxed in their bodies. They need help finding "finding their bodies" and they need support in feeling safe expressing their emotions.
These characteristics are unlike those of other babies or children KT has worked with such as emergency cesarean babies, or cross-culturally adopted babies.
In Carolyn’s case, both of her parents were extremely conscious, loving, and respectful of their IVF babies. The parents and their IVF twins (boy and girl) worked together with KT for 4 years.
At one point, Carolyn began to have significant dreams following several therapy sessions to help her and her twin brother feel resolution from traumatic aspects of their conception through Intracytoplasmic S***m Injection (ICSI). In Carolyn's case, ICSI conception involved using donor eggs in which the s***m of her father were centrifuged to collect the biggest ones. These largest s***m were sorted, selected. They are then injected into the donor eggs. The resulting fertilized eggs were then implanted into the mother.
In one particular session in therapy, the parents requested to meet with KT privately to discuss the content of Carolyn’s upsetting dream the night before. That morning Carolyn had asked her mother to hold her for a long time. The mother seeking to understand why Carolyn was feeling so unsettled, asked her daughter if there was anything she could do to make Carolyn feel better.
Carolyn replied and related her nightmare: "We have to do something about my brothers and sisters. I have 5 brothers and 3 sisters. My other brothers and sisters are freezing. They are in a cave in the snow and they are crying. We have to do something about them.”
According to the mother, there were 7 remaining embryos in storage. Carolyn’s twin brother is one of the 8 siblings, while the 7 frozen ones remained. Carolyn’s claim of 5 brothers and 3 sisters was confirmed.
What can you say about Carolyn’s dream? What effect do IVF technologies have on the spirit and psyche of incoming children? This case certainly deserves serious reflection. Such memories cannot be explained by childish fantasy.
This is a clear story of the IVF baby's relationship and awareness to her frozen siblings. In fact, Carolyn’s affinity to frozen siblings is not unusual for IVF children according to KT’s experiences with IVF babies and children. He found that like Carolyn, many IVF children have some sort of a relationship to the fertilized eggs, which were not used in the implantation and are now frozen.
In Carolyn’s case, her parents did not want to have more children and were undergoing considerable struggle in coming to terms with what to do with the 7 frozen siblings. They parents had not decided what to do with the frozen fertilized eggs. At the time, her options included: implanting them in the mother in an attempt to have more children; donating them for stem cell research; disposing of them; or keeping them in frozen limbo. Recently in the news, parents have been letting other infertile couples adopt the embryos.
KT believes that this is an ethically significant issue, which is not adequately discussed with potential parents in the counseling stages prior to IVF. All parents of IVF children in his practice were struggling with what choice to make.
In reflecting on the process of IVF, it is certainly eye opening to think of the huge awarenesses overlapping and commingling in the fertility labs and coming from those tiny petri dishes. These stories give a powerful visual of how blind we are, just manipulating the material with no understanding of the spirits involved.
For those who are not familiar with IVF, here are a few highlights:
IVF can be done using a couple's own eggs and s***m. Or it may involve eggs, s***m, or embryos from a known or unknown donor.
All IVF babies are intensely monitored and manipulated throughout their embodiment process. There are many reasons for this complex and often invasive scrutiny and handling. From pre-conception to birth, they are handled, examined, and assessed. Most IVF babies are twins, born by cesarean section.
Here is a summary of the steps involving IVF conception:
1. Ovarian stimulation or superovulation: To increase the number of eggs available for fertilization, the eggs are ripened with fertility drugs, and multiple eggs are harvested from the mother’s ovaries by a doctor. This process involves regular monitoring with ultrasounds and blood tests to track the ovaries' response to the medication.
2. Egg Retrieval: Once the eggs are mature, they are retrieved from the ovaries through a surgical procedure under sedation. The retrieved eggs are then collected and prepared for fertilization. Most IVF babies are twins, as multiple fertilized eggs are implanted in the uterus with the assumption that not all will live. The excess fertilized eggs are then frozen and saved at the lab.
3. S***m Preparation: What is the experience like for a s***m cell? Artificial reproductive technologies are often replete with pornographic influences as dads go into a masturbatorium and bring themselves to ej*******on with the help of pornographic images and toys. S***m samples get ej******ed into a cup, get carried around by a medical assistant, perhaps centrifuged, and pulled away from the other s***m with a pipette, and perhaps frozen. Some s***m cells are even frozen, thawed, re-frozen, re-thawed and then used.
4. Fertilization: The collected eggs are mixed with the prepared s***m in a laboratory dish. In some cases, the s***m find their own way into the egg. In other cases, Intra-Cytoplasmic S***m Injection (ICSI) may be used, where a single s***m is directly injected into each egg.
5. Embryo Culture: If fertilization is successful, the fertilized eggs (now called embryos) are allowed to develop for a few days. They are monitored in the lab to ensure they are developing properly. The embryologist will select the healthiest embryos for transfer.
6. Embryo Transfer: One or more embryos are transferred into the woman's uterus using a thin catheter. The embryos are placed in the uterine lining, where they can implant and develop into a baby.
7. Reduction of Siblings: If the transferred embryos implant successfully, pregnancy occurs. Most IVF conceptions involve more than one fertilized egg implanting into the womb. Parents must decide whether they are going to keep all of the implanted babies. A “reduction” is an abortion, or multiple abortions, depending on how many of fertilized eggs implanted, and how many babies a mother chooses to keep.
8. Pregnancy: A pregnancy test is typically performed 9-14 days after the embryo transfer to confirm pregnancy.
According to pre and perinatal psychology, the younger and more vulnerable a human being is, the deeper and more traumatizing harsh experiences can be. Moreover, hardly any younger experience exists than that of s***m and egg cellular consciousness. Thus any imprints laid down during pre-conception, conception, womb life, and birth influence our perceptions of life, sense of family, whether the world is safe or not, etc. Read more about this in our books.
Whether conception occurs within the mother’s body or in a laboratory, it is a significant moment in the future child’s life. So far, IVF procedures only focus on the biological level and ignore the psychological, emotional and spiritual ramifications of participating in IVF. We also need to understand what happens to the consciousness of embryos used in research. Right now scientists are using human brain cells with computers, and they “punish” them in order to make them comply with tasks/training. These thoughts are very unsettling.
Karlton Terry advises:
I am concerned that IVF technology has advanced beyond our understanding of the psychological impacts of the procedure. Parents having difficulty conceiving would be well served by a serious study of the psychological and physiological tendencies in IVF children.
They could then be more fully advised in advance of a decision involving a large financial expenditure, significant gestational stress for the mother and baby, as well as (often) a cesarean delivery and a sudden doubling of the family size.
WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF A REVOLUTION in understanding unborn babies and newborns—their extraordinary memories, broad sentience, love sensing, and other amazing abilities. For more information about prebirth experiences, involving prebirth memories and prebirth communications, read Babies Are Cosmic, Signs of Their Secret Intelligence by Elizabeth Carman PhD.(H), PPNE, and Neil Carman, PhD.
Discover new perspectives on the way we look at unborn children, pregnant mothers, newborns, unseen spiritual guides, and even ourselves. Explore evidence that babies are aware at multiple levels prior to conception, during pregnancy and at birth.
• Children’s memories of birth, womb, conception, preconception, and past-life
• Parents who meet their unborn children. Through dreams and visions, they “see” and hear their child’s voice before conception and throughout pregnancy.
• Experimental results and clinical observations of 100 researchers from birth psychology, developmental psychology, and medicine
445 endnotes, 270 bibliographical references, 12 illustrations
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