04/07/2026
adamgrant and I talk about the dangers of narcissistic leadership and how, through a vulnerability lens, these behaviors are often driven by the shame-based fear of being or appearing ordinary. We also dive into the research on why this extremely high level of ego fragility can lead to unpredictable behaviors that drive fear, anxiety, and exhaustion in teams (and citizens).
The episode was filmed and recorded at SXSW last month, and the audience was amazing!
You can download episode 3 wherever you listen to podcasts or watch on YouTube!