Robert Gardner Wellness

Robert Gardner Wellness Yoga, Thai massage and wellness information. Thai massage classes and sessions.

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08/14/2025

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14.6K likes, 330 comments. “Kevin Smith at the end of Comic-Con always has a panel where he talks about the things from the convention and what I love is that he concludes it every time with something a little like this. I like Kevin Smith because he consistently reminds me that you don’t have t...

Body mechanics and table height get discussed regularly on facebook groups. I'm always amazed that my perspective is so ...
08/14/2025

Body mechanics and table height get discussed regularly on facebook groups. I'm always amazed that my perspective is so far outside of the larger industry I work within.

9/10 times I just look at a technique and think, "there's a better way to do this."

Mat based bodywork using legs and feet as additional tools adds 75% more total tools on the whole including multiple points of contact. It's so profoundly different than table based massage that discussions about deep tissue make me laugh.

I weigh 200 lbs and I stand on clients. Suspension allows me to take off weight with control. I'll sit in suspension asking a client for feedback on their newly discovered quad and while shearing to their knee gently they'll just say, "I've never felt anything like this. Dude this is amazing why aren't therapists doing this?!"

Hands free, I while sitting down go, "hmm, why do therapists want to work harder for less results?"

The larger issue is if you're a more petite therapist you need suspension and mat work More than I do. I'm a big guy. You need the weight and 130 lbs you have to work on that 300 lb guy without straining.

I can teach you. I can show you the way but you'll have to observe enough, work enough and notice the constant slouch I see in therapists. Table work is destined to make the therapist lean over in a way that facilitates the same thoracic flexion we see in clients all day.

Mat based work promotes Real mobility for the therapist in session. Hip issue? Oh we've so many tools I show you how to rehab that while you're working on clients.

I can provide answers but I can't make therapists accept potential they refuse. I teach table work. Your facilities across the U.S. don't allow therapists to utilize the solution I teach.

Confidence isn't something you just have. Real confidence is something you build experientially.It's not working on a co...
08/14/2025

Confidence isn't something you just have. Real confidence is something you build experientially.

It's not working on a complicated low back pain issue. It's having worked on complicated low back issues 1000 times that you have so much muscle memory so much experience that all you do now is a kind of bodywork satori. A walking enlightenment.

Now you stop thinking. Now you get to feel and communicate with clients.

How do you explain to people the difference between Thai massage and Next Level Pain Relief®?There are 2 answers to this...
08/13/2025

How do you explain to people the difference between Thai massage and Next Level Pain Relief®?

There are 2 answers to this, based on who I'm talking to and trying to convey information:
1) the public
2) massage therapists

The public usually has little idea what Thai massage is to begin with and adding Thai means it's exotic, asian, and on the unfortunate far end of the spectrum..it might be s*x work. I'd say less than 10% of the public that I speak with has any idea what Thai massage is and if they do they'll say that it has stretching in the session.

Massage therapists need something they can give to the public that solves their problem. It's not selling How we solve it, it's selling the solution itself.

Next Level Pain Relief®? What is that?

It's pain relief that's next level. :)

When the public demands NLPR sessions then the work is done. Brand is built. Notice that NLPR doesn't say How we solve the problem. It's not mat, table, suspension, abdominal. It just says that NLPR therapists use the tools at their disposal to solve a specific issue, pain.

The issue over the years wasn't is the work Thai or not, at least not to me. The issue was what does Thai massage become in America? In Texas? In your hometown?

I'd no issues adapting work but as I changed things everyone seemed to become uncomfortable and began pushing back. "This isn't traditional."

When I would ask what the tradition is half way around the world people would become uncomfortable because well, we don't have exact distinctions and definitions of what tradition is and is not in Thailand, much less interpreting that information half a world away.

Thippawan and Somporn are Thai nationals. They came to a class or Thai Massage Jam and got inordinately excited because, "this is just how we do it in Thailand!" My work itself, my explanations are western. I'm a westerner. I was delving deeper into a traditional art but borrowing where I felt a practice was created that helped clients in pain.

They'd pull me aside and essentially politely ask me, "Robert, how do we sell this to these westerners?"

It's the same issue but from a totally different perspective. They needed a new box that didn't create confusion, they needed something that was clear. Next Level Pain Relief® was born.

Without the influence of Thai massage, pain science and yoga therapy my work wouldn't exist. Somporn told me in class (I've video footage of this) that she felt bad. When I asked why she said, "you're a white guy and you've done more to promote my people's work than I have."

I smiled and said, "Somporn your people gave me my life back. Without your people's bodywork I'd be long gone from an op**te addiction. I give homage and honor to your people because their cultural heritage allowed me to become free from pain."

If I'm successful at giving the public a service it wants and massage therapists a new package that makes them stand out amongst their colleagues more people will go study Thai massage. My intention has never been to detract it's to be creative and help ease suffering.

I grew up an hour north of New Orleans. If you have some oil, some flour, some okra, some andouille, some chicken and the trinity, well, you make gumbo. Is gumbo european? Is it indigenous? Is it african? The answer is yes. I take the ingredients given and start improvising.

Jazz is a uniquely american art form. I've stood in NOLA and shed a tear at Congo Square because sometimes the pain, sometimes the suffering of a people is transmutated into art that lifts all of humanity up on wings, wings that help us aspire to more justice, more healing and more creativity.

Traditional arts are amazing. Go study them. Then what do we do with them? Next Level Pain Relief® isn't the end, it's people pushing forward to help end the op**te epidemic and help repair the holes in the medical system in the U.S.

It's got to appeal to the public, appeal to therapists and evolve so that everyone realizes what a great idea it is. We're busy showing the world what healing can look like.

08/12/2025
Students will work with me and get business advice along the way. My tendency is to mentally overwhelm those I work with...
08/11/2025

Students will work with me and get business advice along the way. My tendency is to mentally overwhelm those I work with. Over time, learning to teach, I slow down and deliver insightful tidbits and give them what I think the student can chew on.

Giving them too much is useless because they just can't frankly chew on it. Giving them too little is boring and doesn't keep them engaged. I judge the amount given by the questions the student asks.

The questions? That's where all the light comes in.

A student sent me photos the other day of them in their new truck. It looked great and she said, "thank you, you helped me get this." As flattered as I am, understand that you did it. Not me.

You did the work. You saw the clients. You applied what I taught.

What I teach is useless in the hands of someone unwilling to take a new approach.

I give away information freely on the internet. The challenge is find the 0.00001% of the population who will use it.

And I want a ride in that new truck. :)

08/10/2025

Manual therapy vs. Massage

What's the difference?

Integrated Therapies Institute and Kathleen Benanti did a long podcast with me that's coming out soon. Here's a clip where we discuss.

I loved chatting with educators about what we see in the industry. There are varied perspectives but the long term growth of our industry is dependent on thinkers who extend the reaches and potential of what our work encompasses.

08/08/2025

Apprenticeship

Since covid I've seen more students for ongoing training and students get better results in a shorter amount of time. Regularly scheduled private training means I get to work with students directly and answer questions as they build in comprehension.

Packaging is an ongoing issue and I also have a single day 6 hour private training for those who travel in from out of town.

The recurring education makes a larger dent. I love group CE classes and private trainings but apprenticeship allows a student to really dig in and grow as a therapist.

Currently apprenticeship is $250 a month and I ask students to make a 6 month commitment. Each month in person in Austin we meet for 3 hours and we continue building your dream practice.

To make things easier? I can do the same trainings via my multicam in zoom. I share and teach from 4 camera angles and work with you. 2 hours a month, $250 a month.

If you're out there. If you want it. I'm a livestream away from helping you build your practice.

Message me to interview for a spot.

08/08/2025

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