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01/12/2026

Ep #370 Kicking Shame to the Curb With Deborah Yager

This Episode was sponsored by Emergo Academy / emergoacademy.com

Shame loses its power the moment we stop hiding. Shame has a way of convincing us that our past disqualifies us from our future. On the podcast, I sat down with Deborah Yager, and we talked about something that doesn’t get discussed enough in professional spaces—inner transformation.
What Deborah reminded us today is that you are not broken—you’re becoming. Your past isn’t a life sentence, it’s raw material. When you stop fighting who you were and start owning your story, something shifts. Healing begins. Power returns. And the very thing you thought disqualified you becomes the reason you’re uniquely equipped to help others rise. Kick shame to the curb. Speak your truth. Create the life you were always meant to live. That journey often turns into what she called a spiritual bootcamp—uncomfortable, challenging, and absolutely life-changing.

Deborah’s story is living proof of that transformation.

She is a Master Trainer of NLP, a High Performance Coach, and the co-founder of Yager Training. But her journey didn’t start with success.

Deborah grew up in Missouri in a loving family, yet found herself pulled into addiction, toxic relationships, and overwhelming debt. Her former identity included being illiterate, battling drug addiction, and working as a stripper and s*x worker. She hit rock bottom more times than she could count—until she realized the only paths ahead were prison or death.

Refusing to accept either, she kept searching.

That search led her to Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), where she saw people who spoke differently, moved differently, and carried a level of confidence and presence she desperately wanted. Her coaches saw greatness in her before she could see it in herself. Through panic attacks, social anxiety, crushing self-doubt, and relentless fear, Deborah kept showing up.

Even after achieving success, shame resurfaced. She questioned whether people would take her seriously if they knew her past. But through connecting with others who shared similar stories, she discovered the power of truth. When she finally owned her story instead of hiding it, it became her greatest strength.

Today, Deborah is clean, successful, fulfilled, and free. Her past no longer defines her—it empowers her. Her mission is helping women become unapologetic, liberated, free from shame, and confident in speaking their truth.

Because that—as Deborah says—is pure magic.
Get to know Deb here: https://yagertraining.com/meetdeb/.
And explore their work at https://yourtruealchemy.com

01/11/2026

Kicking Shame To The Curb with Deborah Yager, Monday on AR-The Other Side of Addiction.

Shame loses its power the moment we stop hiding. Shame has a way of convincing us that our past disqualifies us from our future. On the podcast, I sat down with Deborah Yager, and we talked about something that doesn’t get discussed enough in professional spaces—inner transformation.
What Deborah reminded us today is that you are not broken—you’re becoming. Your past isn’t a life sentence, it’s raw material. When you stop fighting who you were and start owning your story, something shifts. Healing begins. Power returns. And the very thing you thought disqualified you becomes the reason you’re uniquely equipped to help others rise. Kick shame to the curb. Speak your truth. Create the life you were always meant to live. That journey often turns into what she called a spiritual bootcamp—uncomfortable, challenging, and absolutely life-changing.

Deborah’s story is living proof of that transformation.

She is a Master Trainer of NLP, a High Performance Coach, and the co-founder of Yager Training. But her journey didn’t start with success.

Deborah grew up in Missouri in a loving family, yet found herself pulled into addiction, toxic relationships, and overwhelming debt. Her former identity included being illiterate, battling drug addiction, and working as a stripper and s*x worker. She hit rock bottom more times than she could count—until she realized the only paths ahead were prison or death.

Refusing to accept either, she kept searching.

That search led her to Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), where she saw people who spoke differently, moved differently, and carried a level of confidence and presence she desperately wanted. Her coaches saw greatness in her before she could see it in herself. Through panic attacks, social anxiety, crushing self-doubt, and relentless fear, Deborah kept showing up.

Even after achieving success, shame resurfaced. She questioned whether people would take her seriously if they knew her past. But through connecting with others who shared similar stories, she discovered the power of truth. When she finally owned her story instead of hiding it, it became her greatest strength.

Today, Deborah is clean, successful, fulfilled, and free. Her past no longer defines her—it empowers her. Her mission is helping women become unapologetic, liberated, free from shame, and confident in speaking their truth.

Because that—as Deborah says—is pure magic.
Get to know Deb here: https://yagertraining.com/meetdeb/.
And explore their work at https://yourtruealchemy.com

01/05/2026

Ep # 369 If Your Dreams Don’t Scare You, They Aren’t BIG Enough

This Episode was sponsored by Emergo Academy / emergoacademy.com

Featuring: Will Bell — A Story of Courage, Accountability & Radical Transformation

Some stories don’t just inspire you—they challenge you. They remind you of what’s possible when a person refuses to stay who they used to be. Will’s story is one of those stories.

With 25 years of lived experience in the system beginning at just 12 years old, Will’s early life was marked by instability, addiction, trauma, and survival. He never knew his mother, his father battled alcoholism, and he was bounced from home to home with a poor-me mindset that shaped his childhood and teenage years. As the years went on, that pain turned into chaos—six trips to prison, 6–7 overdoses, and a life spinning faster and faster toward a dead end.

But here’s where the story flips…

There came a moment—a deep, internal shift—when Will knew something had to change. Not just the circumstances. Him.
He walked through the doors of The Other Side Academy and spent over five and a half years rebuilding the very foundation of who he was. And in that process, he discovered something powerful:

He was meant for more.

Today, Will shows up in a way the old version of him would have never believed. He gives back what was freely given to him. He walks with people still “in the trenches”—people who are just as broken as he once was, but also just as capable of rising. He takes accountability. He honors his growth. And he chases dreams that once would’ve terrified him.

Because as he says—and lives—
“If your dreams don’t scare you, they aren’t big enough.”

Will knows his journey is only beginning. He knows his Higher Power has more in store. And today, he’s ready for it.

This episode isn’t just about transformation—it’s about permission. It’s about possibility. It’s about what happens when someone decides to bet on themselves, no matter how dark their past was.

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01/03/2026

01/03/2026

Monday on AR-The Other side of Addiction Podcast

If Your Dreams Don’t Scare You, They Aren’t BIG Enough

Featuring: William Bell — A Story of Courage, Accountability & Radical Transformation

Some stories don’t just inspire you—they challenge you. They remind you of what’s possible when a person refuses to stay who they used to be. Will’s story is one of those stories.

With 25 years of lived experience in the system beginning at just 12 years old, Will’s early life was marked by instability, addiction, trauma, and survival. He never knew his mother, his father battled alcoholism, and he was bounced from home to home with a poor-me mindset that shaped his childhood and teenage years. As the years went on, that pain turned into chaos—six trips to prison, 6–7 overdoses, and a life spinning faster and faster toward a dead end.

Be sure to watch the show to here where the story flips…

Watercourse Way Wellness Services LLC
Will@watercoursewellness.org
801-889-9360

12/29/2025

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12/29/2025

Ep #368 Man To Man With Ben Benedict

This Episode is Sponsored By EMERGO ACADEMY / ermergoacademy.com

Another powerful episode in the books

In this conversation, we stripped away the noise and got real about what the modern man is facing today. We talked about the importance of exercise, not just for the body but for the mind — how movement becomes medicine, and how it anchors us when life feels heavy.

We dove into emotional situations, anger, and the pressures men carry that often go unspoken. Society has trained men to believe vulnerability equals weakness… but in reality, vulnerability is where strength is born. It’s where healing begins. It’s where truth lives.

We also unpacked the “victim mindset” — how easy it is to sit in the passenger seat of your own life, and how damaging that can be. At the end of the day, we all have a choice. Your path is yours to walk. Your well-being is your responsibility. No one can do the inner work for you.

And maybe the biggest message of all: Love yourself. Be kind to yourself. Stop labeling yourself — and stop labeling others.

Men are carrying more than most people will ever see, and half the battle is learning how to treat yourself with the same compassion you give the world.

This episode is raw, honest, and needed. If you’re a man who’s been battling in silence… or someone who loves a man who is… this one will hit home.

CHECK OUT MAN TO MAN PODCAST ON SPOTIFY with Logan Adams & Ben Benedict
https://open.spotify.com/show/2vr1CPWjtujBfzec0J7dg3?si=0fDjeskfS5OHg7SZl5XIpw

12/27/2025

Ep #368 Man To Man With Ben Benedict, Monday on AR-The Other side of Addiction
This Episode is Sponsored By EMERGO ACADEMY / ermergoacademy.com
In this conversation, we stripped away the noise and got real about what the modern man is facing today. We talked about the importance of exercise, not just for the body but for the mind — how movement becomes medicine, and how it anchors us when life feels heavy.
We dove into emotional situations, anger, and the pressures men carry that often go unspoken. Society has trained men to believe vulnerability equals weakness… but in reality, vulnerability is where strength is born. It’s where healing begins. It’s where truth lives.
We also unpacked the “victim mindset” — how easy it is to sit in the passenger seat of your own life, and how damaging that can be. At the end of the day, we all have a choice. Your path is yours to walk. Your well-being is your responsibility. No one can do the inner work for you.
And maybe the biggest message of all: Love yourself. Be kind to yourself. Stop labeling yourself — and stop labeling others.
Men are carrying more than most people will ever see, and half the battle is learning how to treat yourself with the same compassion you give the world.
This episode is raw, honest, and needed. If you’re a man who’s been battling in silence… or someone who loves a man who is… this one will hit home.
CHECK OUT MAN TO MAN PODCAST ON SPOTIFY with Logan Adams & Ben Benedict
https://open.spotify.com/show/2vr1CPWjtujBfzec0J7dg3...
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12/22/2025

Ep #367 Co-Dependency; A Way Out of Despair Into A Life of Freedom With Laney Lawrimore

This episode is Sponsored By EMERGO ACADEMY / emergoacademy.com

Life has a way of sending us in circles. We swear we’re choosing differently… only to find ourselves with the same type of partner, the same pain, the same heartbreak — again. And then the question hits us like a brick:

“WHY DO I KEEP DOING THIS?”

In this episode, Laney Lawrimore helps us break down the truth behind co-dependency — not as a label, but as a pattern of survival we’ve lived in for far too long.
We unpack the many faces of co-dependency:
• People-pleasing
• Enabling
• Emotional rescuing
• Being the savior
• Becoming the fixer
• Carrying the weight of everyone else’s chaos while ignoring our own

Here’s the hard truth:
We cannot fix or change anyone else, especially when we’re drowning in the same behaviors ourselves.
And the more we try to save others, the more we quietly destroy our own life.

Laney shared something powerful — God will continue giving us the same lesson until we finally learn it. Once we recognize the pattern, everything shifts. Life starts aligning. Clarity shows up. Peace begins to return.

Co-dependency convinces us that love means carrying someone else’s life on our back. But real love — healthy love — begins with taking responsibility for our own healing first.
Because when we don’t, we rob others of the accountability they desperately need… and we rob ourselves of the freedom God is trying to give us.

And here’s the reminder we all need:
We were never meant to do life on our own.
Call it God, the Universe, Spirit — it doesn’t matter. What matters is recognizing that healing requires something bigger than us. Strength comes from surrender. Freedom comes from letting go of what was never ours to carry.

This episode is a wake-up call, a mirror, and a roadmap out of despair and into a life of emotional freedom.

You can find Laney on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok

12/20/2025

Monday on AR-The AR-The Other side of Addiction Podcast Ep #367 Co-Dependency; A Way Out of Despair Into A Life of Freedom With Laney Lawrimore

Laney D Lawrimore is a grateful believer in Jesus who celebrates recovery from drugs, alcohol, s*x addiction, and codependency. As a public speaker and recovery advocate, she openly shares her story to help others find hope and healing. Together with her husband, Laney supports the recovery community through sponsorship, speaking, live events, and social media outreach. Her mission is to help others discover a way out of despair and into a life of freedom, purpose, and joy. You can find Laney on Facebook, Instagram, and TikTok

Life has a way of sending us in circles. We swear we’re choosing differently… only to find ourselves with the same type of partner, the same pain, the same heartbreak — again. And then the question hits us like a brick:

“WHY DO I KEEP DOING THIS?”

In this episode, Laney Lawrimore helps us break down the truth behind co-dependency — not as a label, but as a pattern of survival we’ve lived in for far too long.
We unpack the many faces of co-dependency:
• People-pleasing
• Enabling
• Emotional rescuing
• Being the savior
• Becoming the fixer
• Carrying the weight of everyone else’s chaos while ignoring our own

Here’s the hard truth:

We cannot fix or change anyone else, especially when we’re drowning in the same behaviors ourselves.
And the more we try to save others, the more we quietly destroy our own life.
Laney shared something powerful — God will continue giving us the same lesson until we finally learn it. Once we recognize the pattern, everything shifts. Life starts aligning. Clarity shows up. Peace begins to return.

Co-dependency convinces us that love means carrying someone else’s life on our back. But real love — healthy love — begins with taking responsibility for our own healing first.
Because when we don’t, we rob others of the accountability they desperately need… and we rob ourselves of the freedom God is trying to give us.

And here’s the reminder we all need:
We were never meant to do life on our own.
Call it God, the Universe, Spirit — it doesn’t matter. What matters is recognizing that healing requires something bigger than us. Strength comes from surrender. Freedom comes from letting go of what was never ours to carry.

This episode is a wake-up call, a mirror, and a roadmap out of despair and into a life of emotional freedom.

12/15/2025

Ep #366 The Courage to Take Accountability with Rachel Liddell

This Episode is Sponsored by EMERGO ACADEMY / emergoacademy.com

Today’s conversation with Rachel Liddell hit deep. We talked about something that far too many people avoid, and yet it’s the doorway to a better life: accountability.

For so many of us, especially those who’ve battled addiction, it’s easier to play the victim. It’s easier to point fingers, blame circumstances, or believe life is happening to us instead of the choices we’ve made. But as Rachel said so perfectly — when you can OWN YOUR S**T, there’s freedom in that. Real freedom. The kind that cracks you open and lets you rebuild.

We also went somewhere people don’t talk about enough: the pain of the families on the other side of addiction. Rachel said something raw and brutally honest:

“I’d rather be in my own addiction than be a loved one watching someone I care about battle theirs.”

That one stopped me. Because it’s real. Families live in a constant storm — anger, fear, heartbreak, confusion — all tangled into a knot they can’t untie. They don’t know what to do. They don’t know what’s enough. They don’t know when to hold on or when to let go. And like Rachel said, it all comes down to doing what you can live with.

Rachel is now helping others learn how to do something that sounds impossible:
Be comfortable in the chaos.
Be open to receiving.
Understand that willingness cannot have a threshold.

And her story? It’s as powerful as her message.

12/13/2025

Monday on AR-The Other side of Addiction
The Courage to Take Accountability with Rachel Liddell
My conversation with Rachel Liddell hit deep. We talked about something that far too many people avoid, and yet it’s the doorway to a better life: accountability.
For so many of us, especially those who’ve battled addiction, it’s easier to play the victim. It’s easier to point fingers, blame circumstances, or believe life is happening to us instead of the choices we’ve made. But as Rachel said so perfectly — when you can OWN YOUR S**T, there’s freedom in that. Real freedom. The kind that cracks you open and lets you rebuild.
We also went somewhere people don’t talk about enough: the pain of the families on the other side of addiction. Rachel said something raw and brutally honest:
“I’d rather be in my own addiction than be a loved one watching someone I care about battle theirs.”
That one stopped me. Because it’s real. Families live in a constant storm — anger, fear, heartbreak, confusion — all tangled into a knot they can’t untie. They don’t know what to do. They don’t know what’s enough. They don’t know when to hold on or when to let go. And like Rachel said, it all comes down to doing what you can live with.