05/17/2024
“Part 2 Interview – Emily Nagoski’s New Book, ‘Come Together’” Published March 21, 2024, Montague Reporter
(Monthly “S*x Matters” Column) by Stephanie Baird, LMHC
Dear readers, for March we have Part Two of the interview with Emily Nagoski, PhD about her latest book, Come Together: The Science (and Art) of Creating Lasting S*xual Connection (2024).
Here is a bit more information from the jacket description:
“Nagoski breaks down the obstacles that impede us from enjoying s*x – from stress and body image to relationship difficulties and gendered beliefs about how s*x ‘should’ be – and presents the best ways to overcome them. You’ll learn:
• that “spontaneous desire” is not the kind of desire to strive for if you want to have great s*x for decades;
• vocabulary for talking with partners about ways to get in ‘the mood’ and how to not take it personally when ‘the mood’ is nowhere to be found;
• how to understand your own and your partner’s ‘emotional floorplan,’ so that you have a blueprint for how to get to a s*xy state of mind.
“Written with scientific rigor, humor, and compassion, Nagoski shows us what great s*x can look like, how to create it in our own lives, and what to do when struggles arise.”
I happily gulped down this new book in a handful of days, and am including it in my canon of regularly recommended texts for my clients – especially those in long-term relationships – as this book also has a lot of excellent communication strategies and tips.
As are her other two books, it is written in a highly readable, relatable, and engaging style. Throughout the book, as in Come As You Are, Nagoski takes every opportunity to remind readers they are “normal” and “not broken,” no matter what they think of their own struggles. She also continuously reminds us of how difficult it is to cultivate a pleasure-oriented, pleasure-positive s*xuality, in the consistently toxic and erotophobic culture that surrounds our “gardens.”
SB: Can you share a couple examples of practical skills couples can learn from this book?
EN: The most transformational skills in the book are not what you might call “practical.” They involve cultivating s*xual confidence (that is, knowing what’s true about your s*xuality, your body, your mind, your world, your relationship, your life history, even if it’s not what you think “should” be true” and even if it’s not what you wish were true) and joy (that is, loving what’s true about your s*xuality etc., even if it’s not what you think “should” be true, even if it’s not what you wish were true.) (Joy is the hard part.)
Above all, turning toward whatever is happening in the moment with confidence, joy, compassion, and a sense of play, rather than a sense of worry that something is “wrong,” will completely revolutionize a person’s experience of a s*xual connection. Changing our relationship with s*xuality itself is the foundational transformation that will change our s*x lives.
But the practical stuff is helpful, too. As one example to illustrate, my spouse and I put towels in our nightstands, so that we could clean up without having to get out of bed on a cold New England night. Transformational!
SB: If you could recommend only one or two other modern self-help s*x-related books (other than your own), what would they be?
EN: Oh gosh, it really depends who the reader is. I think Magnificent S*x by Peggy Kleinplatz and Dana Ménard is essential reading for all professionals for any research-minded person interested in s*x. For people who are delving into their own s*xual minds to discover what’s true for themselves, under all the cultural lies they were told, I recommend the forthcoming Feel It All by Casey Tanner of *xtherapy.
SB: What local bookstores can folks buy your book from?
EN: Many local bookstores carry Come Together, and any of them can order it if you ask! My local bookstore, Book Moon Books in Easthampton, carries signed copies.
SB: Now that you might have a bit of free time again for yourself, what types of activities and self-care do you enjoy?
EN: Hahahahahahaha FREE TIME THAT’S HILARIOUS I LOVE IT!!!!
I have long COVID, so the bulk of my free time is devoted to restoring my nervous system and my mitochondria to full working order. Do long, hot baths count as an activity?
SB: Heck, yeah, hot baths count, especially if your partner draws them for you.
Having now had a chance to fully read and digest this powerhouse of optimism, I’ll mention a few highlights that stuck out for me: Nagoski speaks often of “centering pleasure” in our lives, both throughout the day and sensually/s*xually. “Spark” in a relationship and “pleasure” are not the same, as “spark” can be hard to maintain long-term, and is actually not associated with long-term relationship contentment.
Getting to know our pleasure-favorable spaces in our emotion brain (lust, play, seeking, care) and pleasure-adverse spaces (panic/grief, fear, rage), alongside our thinking minds, bodies, and observation minds, can help us sort out our “floorplans,” developing blueprints for accessing pleasure more often.
Figuring out what is adjacent to lust spaces in our floor plans will help us access said lust and resulting pleasure. For instance, if play is close to lust – like a screened-in porch that you walk through – then laughing and wrestling with your partner may help you get to lust a bit easier.
Nagoski also spends plenty of time discussing the negative impact of various imperatives such as the “coital imperative,” “the variety imperative,” the “performance imperative,” the “confidence imperative,” the “monogamy imperative,” and even the “s*x imperative.” To learn more, you’ll have to get the book and turn to page 197.
There is also a full chapter – perhaps my favorite chapter – devoted to the mirage of the “gender binary.”
In the end, Nagoski is doing her damndest to instill in her readers that we deserve the right and the opportunity to fully be and express ourselves authentically, confidently, and joyfully. For that, I am eternally grateful.
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